Full meeting transcript - October 8, 2024

» Turned the phone off All right, it is six o'clock we're gonna go ahead and call the meeting to order This October 8 2024 Kershaw County Council meeting his call to order We've got an invocation tonight by Councilman Russell Brazel and then the Pledge of Allegiance We'll stand and pray Dear gracious Heavenly Father. Thank you for bringing us all here tonight Thank you for allowing us to conduct business in a way that glorifies your name thank you for keeping our family safe and Keeping us in your will is as we go through life Dear Lord, I just Asked that you be with us tonight and all the decisions that we make and keep everyone's family safe in your name. We pray.

» Amen One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank you very much Councilman Brazel and welcome out tonight everyone. Appreciate you being here The next item that we have on our agenda gentlemen is adoption of the agenda. Do we have a motion? So moved We have a second second. Mr. Shoemake. Do we have a motion to amend? I do Mr. Chair, I would move that we amend the agenda to remove item 6b public hearings This item was already had a public hearing at the Zoning Commission. So I believe it's unnecessary here. Okay, do we have a second on that? Second. All right any discussion Hearing none all in favor.

» Raise your right hand Miss Mary, I mean miss Hannah excuse me creature of habit all in favor who are present and if you would so I don't Have to say it for every vote. Let's just note throughout the record that mr. Tomlinson is absent on business Thank you. All right now as amended Let's vote on it. Mr. If I may I'd like to make a an amendment on the executive session that I'd like to remove Like remove a Nothing. That's something could really be discussed in open session County Council And when you and I had a discussion, I think you kind of made me clear on that as well And I started thinking about it made perfect sense You would like to remove a from the agenda.

» Yes When I said a I'm talking about Number 17, excuse me executive session the ADA you don't you'd like to remove it entirely from yes That that in executive session because I think so that we talked about in open session the County Council That need to be done executive session. That's not the form of a motion that I can entertain Is there a section that you'd like to move it to? Well, if you want to move it we can move it up to the very beginning or just wherever you see so fit I mean, it's no particular place. I've got something on the agenda under discussion. You can put it there if you want It's your motion sir, okay. Well, then let's put it under number eight discussion along with the Planning staff report. Okay as I understand the motion.

» It's to move item number 17 a after The planning item listed under discussion. Is that correct? Correct. Is there a second? I do not see a second So the next item, thank you. Mr. Thank you. Mr. Council. Yes, sir. Thank you. Mr. Jones Any other motions regarding the agenda? All right, seeing none we vote on the agenda as amended all in favor raise your right hand Miss Hannah, you have mr. Cato. Mr. Connell. Mr. Brazel. Mr. Tucker and mr. Shoemake in favor all those opposed You have mr. Jones opposed The agenda is adopted now the agenda has been adopted. I'm gonna have chairmen's prerogative and move item 11 be under new business to the end of executive session items And we will proceed forward in that way Next item is number five public comments. Mr.

» DeVos There's one speaker for public comment Tom Webb litter ordinance Okay, mr. Webb, please Keep coming back and coming back on the subject and I'll be back again. I think you have a crazy litter ordinance based on Some other counties litter ordinance. It's probably based on somebody else's litter ordinance It's probably based on somebody else's little ordinance. Maybe all the way back to Germany or the old Soviet Union It's a crazy litter ordinance. It's not for South Carolina There are things that people would have around their house out in the boondocks glassware crockery cans Cardboard cardboard boxes. These things are forbidden in your litter ordinance. Isn't that crazy? I Think so and you'd be fined two hundred and fifty dollars for having any of that on your own private property.

» So the roads belong to everybody even the the the rednecks who are a little bit careless with their trash and probably they should be fined something for throwing a small amount of trash out but not two hundred and fifty dollars the eighth amendment the Bill of Rights says We should be careful about Overdoing these fines the Founding Fathers Encounter that sort of thing with the British they could they could find the daylights out of you for nothing So excessive fines are forbidden in the eighth amendment But our litter ordinance, I think goes way overboard with two hundred and fifty dollar fine for something like having a cardboard box On your own private property you hear me You could have this on your own private property and be fined two hundred and fifty dollars for it According to you

» r litter ordinance, so I'm turning in my cardboard box this afternoon To avoid the two hundred and fifty dollar fine. Of course, I don't expect Anybody to enforce a litter ordinance like that. What happens is people will pass something and then they don't do anything with it For a long time somebody else is on County Council. Maybe again and again until somebody decides to enforce it and Then they can come after us in our private property and and Treat us badly harshly. So I'm turning it in to avoid my two hundred fifty dollar fine. I Guess that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Webb. No one else signed up. Mr. Bose No, all right public comments are concluded next item gentlemen on the agenda is a set of public hearings We've already had be removed from the agenda earlier.

» We've got item number 6a This is case 2 2 2 4. Excuse me dash 2 2. It's an ordinance to amend the ZLDR Section 3 3.2 6 regarding large-scale commercial standalone solar energy farms to require applicants to hold a community meeting Mr. Bose, do we have anyone signed up? Mr. Tom Webb Mr. Tom Webb Please go ahead. Mr. Webb the public hearings open well, I would say these Solar farms are part of the Green New Deal they are They don't have any means of storing the electricity.

» They just sell it to the big companies so If if they were to make this thing work to be able to have these solar farms to provide electricity they must also have some sort of backup plants for when it's cloudy, but we know that the The Biden administration is trying to do away with gas stoves and Any saw any fossil fuel? So what does that that leave us with maybe nuclear power plants? We don't have nearly enough to to back up When it's cloudy So these solar farms will provide us with electricity when it's sunny, but when it's cloudy What are you going to do then? I don't know It doesn't seem like anybody is addressing it you could have maybe gas-fired Turbines that could come online and take up the slack.

» But like I say these gas stoves are going to be outlawed they're doing that in California and All the fossil fuel generating plants are supposed to convert to solar it's very Undependable and that's just what somebody wants for us to have Energy that is undependable. I'm not sure why but they seem to be is a The lunatics rise to the top So it's it's crazy and I'm against it And I know some of y'all are but you're not speaking out very much So I'll just leave it at that. Thank you. Mr. Webb Anyone else signed up at all mr. Debeau's not for that item Okay, that'll close the public hearing on case two four dash two two Skipping item B is discussed previously Gentlemen, that takes us to item number six C.

» This is an ordinance by Kershaw County Council to convey a parcel of land consisting of approximately one acre is identified in the published agenda to the community medical clinic Do we have any signed up? Yes, the honorable Thomas Cooper Judge Cooper, please Public hearings open. Thank you. Mr. Chairman With me today is our chairman of the board of the Kershaw County Medical Clinic. Mr.

» Harvey Galloway and our executive director Charlotte Rankin My only purpose in rising is to thank the council for Working with us to get this transaction complete, you know It's sort of like the day that you pay off your mortgage The clinic has been operating for 20 years under the as While the county has been owning the property and I think we have faithfully and complied with the terms of the agreement back in 2004 and We're coming close to the time when the transfer of the property is going to be back to the medical clinic We plan to and I speak I think for the entire board We plan to continue that medical clinic.

» There's at least as long as I'm on the board and the members of the board are there We have no intention of doing anything except providing that service for Kershaw County It comes to the point where we We have outgrown the facility we may have to do something else in terms of location and We we do want the flexibility of ownership of the property so we can deal with it at that time But as I said main purpose of my speaking to you And I want to commend Councilman Shoemake for his Cooperation and efforts on this behalf to make sure this is a smooth transaction and come third reading we anticipate no problem and We'll tear up the mortgage. Thank you very much Good to see you out. It's good to see you. Mr. Chair. May I go ahead first off? Let me say thank you.

» I'm a big supporter of this this organization and And you certainly had my vote through all three rings. Let me say this to that Councilman Tommy Cooper judge con Tommy Cooper I was Served under him when he was on County Council. You were a fair man. You did a great job and as a judge I was in your courtroom. Thank you. Not as a criminal, but uh, I Never saw you up there But I want to say that I really enjoyed the time I spent with you when you were with the county now I want to thank you for all your public service and I mean that from my heart. Well, you're most gracious You're a great man. Thank you. Thank you. Judge Cooper. You're perpetually a man of your word We thank you and your staff and the executive director and we have no doubt.

» You'll carry out the things you've just discussed Mr. Debeau's anyone else signed up at all? No, mr. Chair. Thank you. That'll close the public hearing on 2424 excuse me on the conveyance of land Next item on the agenda gentleman is number seven approval of minutes. Do we have a motion? Make a motion. We approve the minutes as submitted by a clerk to council. Thank you. Mr Tucker. Do we have a second? I'll second mr. Shoemake seconds any discussion. Thank you. Miss Hannah Seeing no discussion all in favor raise your right hand Miss Hannah all those who are present are in favor that takes us to item number eight on the agenda discussion We've got a planning staff report placed on the agenda by Councilman Jones. Is there any? Preliminary update from staff you want mr.

» Jones or would you like to make a motion? I'll make a motion Okay, bring this up for discussion All right, is there a second Second we've got a second discussion. I just want to read what I had said at the last County Council meeting that Under discussion for disclosure. I was wanting to know how much money we have spent in the name of Contract agencies engineering etc pertain to planning and zoning how many employees in the last two years Have been brought in through contractual or regular status whichever and I'm talking about an engineering stonewater treatment Even working at the front counter.

» So basically what I'm asking the administrator is How many how many contract agencies do you have in planning and zoning? Who are they? Safe built we've had them for quite a long time and they've always been our kind of our parachute In case we ran low or ran into something with a large volume or an immediate need for What are they doing instruction building inspections? They do building inspections. Yes And how many do we have here? Currently we just have one and let me ask you this how much money we spent with the contract agencies over the last year Maybe two years From planning and zoning, you know, yeah from using contract employees in planning is only over the last two years 2022 through 24 or two.

» I'm sorry 2024 there was 272,000 196 dollars 76 cents So on the average per month that's 12,000 about 13 thousand dollars a month Would it not be cheaper to hire an engineer? Well, this is why we were spending so much money because we didn't have a certified building inspector and then once we Were able to hire that individual so again the this Contract is a stopgap. So when we run into these issues Our old building inspector retired earlier than we thought and To be able to find individuals that want to come to a county setting or a municipal setting and work It's very difficult these contractors offer a much Much more conducive work environment. So it makes it difficult for us to hire Yeah, it was said.

» Yeah, they've been They've been out there working for sure that I know a lot of start stop work orders have been issued and I know that when you got a contract employee, they make money when they can bring in more revenue through Where this issue permits, you know are having people go back in have to refile to bring something else So on that I think there's a Just a clarification they are not paid by the stop work orders.

» So that's a county and internal county Function that is outlined in our provisos You're correct in our list of fees Yeah, and so they are a contract employee and they just work for a fixed sum of money depending on the hours Exactly, but you have to show your worth to be able to come back and it's all just it's all different sections of the county As far as the money's concerned, but it's all the county's money There was a meeting held and it was brought to my attention that Someone in the meeting mentioned that under the Templar administration We're going to enforce planning zoning by the book word for word Letter for letter. Is that true? Yes.

» I was a cop for a long time I fully intend to enforce what we have what council has put on the books what we have collectively put on the books And and these things protect the the homeowner You know, let me just share with you there's an instance in this county. I won't say where it's at, but there are four homes built by a builder that circumvented some of the DOT curb cut requirements they submitted a different set of plans to DHEC and then submitted a very different set of plans to DOT They were allowed their curb cuts.

» They were allowed to go forward and those four homes flood Luckily they flooded within that year period of of the warranty, but that's that's what I don't want under the Templar administration Okay under the Templar administration, let me ask you this and it's the law on the book You just said you're going to force the every letter of the law planning zoning from this point on Why did you not enforce when? someone was on five acres of 15 acres of land and they had nothing woods around them and You've got to redo and turn that house around make it face the main road Which was a ridiculous law.

» Well, you didn't make them enforce that and I'm glad you didn't I think you use good judgment on that But I guess when you say you're going to buy the letter of the law everything is written in there. This don't think that's realistic I mean, they're gray areas out there. Am I correct or not? Did you work that out for those folks? And didn't you call me about yes, I did absolutely and I'll tell you right now And didn't you call me about yes, I did absolutely and I'll tell you right now I'll call you about any citizen that calls me.

» Okay, and I'm not and I'm not let me finish and I'm not concerned about What anybody thinks? Um, I'm I'm just asking the question Getting back to What I asked you said they were going to force it by the letter of the law on temple administration And yet thankfully you didn't Whenever those those situations arose and you and you did a good job doing that danny But bottom line is you can't say one thing and then do another thing Mr.

» Elf No, i'm if I may there are absolutely positively opportunities for us to enforce our laws our our ordinances And still have a favorable outcome for the person wanting to build But there are also instances where we will enforce the letter of the law because it protects the very homeowner with some of these storm water issues that we have where where developers have been allowed to Pull out of their development without finishing everything that they were supposed to and turning over uh sub sub divisions with storm water issues that now The templar administration has to figure out how to fix that's not fair to the the taxpayers that's not fair to the homeowners um That's not what i'm talking about But I I will enforce What I believe needs to be enforced to the letter of the law when it com

» es to protecting the greater good of the county Okay, well that wasn't what i was talking about and I understand we have a big issue with storm water But my my concern was when it said that under the templar administration by the way council says policy And you work for the council and you'll follow the council's policy uh, I know that's and and and I think it's important to have context in that meeting that it was That that those words were uttered and that was a developer That has been non-compliant with storm water that has not been that has is Fees that are owed and and it has been Somewhat problematic And and so yes, we will enforce that they will pay What is owed and they will? Conform to all of our storm water the state storm water, even if fees aren't listed in the land use ordinanc

» e We have fees listed in the proviso. They've always been in there. That's what we just went through this past budget We increased our fees and let me tell you this this is what i'm getting at I was told one time and uh And I appreciate you Stopping another council member trying to come to your defense when we're just having a valid discussion about issues at hand Um, I was told one time sitting up here that judge you better never say never never ever because that's a long time I think to to sit there and say in front of some citizens that we're going to force things onto the letter of the law Well, I tell you right now we got some clients of some of our folks up here who are in violation of the letter Of the law over west watery Well, mr Jones if you want to paint me into a corner and i'm

» not paying you into a corner I'm just asking you a question then that's that's i'm just asking you a question Well, and I gave you my answers you did and you want to paint me into a corner with semantics then It's not semantics. It is it is not How do you figure semantics when you say you're going to force the letter of the law? but then yet you go out there and do these other things which I like and I actually came to you and And uh And I commend you for that We're losing you're losing me where we're going with this I just want to know how can you say you're going to force by the letter of the law When there are violations over there right now in lugoff and also when we have absolutely made adjustments for folks And and rightfully so and there's been a member of council up here who told me

» That they told you we need to force it by the letter of the law So anyway, that's just I think this line of questioning is some of the most just Fascinating really? Yes, sir. I I I don't you're right. I don't know where we're going with this. I I don't understand So i'm looking forward to seeing where we do go with this. All right, gentlemen, mr Jones, do you still have the floor? Yes, I do. Okay. Anything else you'd like to share? Yes I just want to ask a couple questions if I may go ahead. Let me ask you this. Mr. Chancellor.

» How many retention? Basis do we have in our county? There's around I don't know exactly but I know the county owns a little over a dozen and you look at there's County-owned retention ponds, then there's commercially owned retention ponds such as businesses and then there's You've also got the ones in the who maintains the ones that are abandoned Yes, there's there's several of those out there Do we have to maintain control? Are we are we supposed to be maintaining control of those? um that's what we are trying to get to the bottom of it at um through everything we're working on with stormwater because I think that is a john debose and our staff has been working on that because this that is a question we need to better understand because there are significant amount of retention ponds out t

» here in older subdivisions that The language and the direction from dhek is not necessarily clear so in my mind, um Just understanding how dhek works sometimes in the state's unfunded mandates in my mind. I I say yes at some point we will have to Maintain those it's just a matter of When not if so, I think we've been charged and you create me if i'm wrong. I think we've been Charged that we are responsible for them We we haven't been officially told but if if you look at the the language I think that would be a a reasonable expectation coming in the future Does the county have control of the city of camden retention basis as well? No, they're in their own ms4. They have their own stormwater. Yes Well, mr.

» Timber, thank you so much for answering my questions and um council, thank you very much Thank you. Mr. Jones. Mr. Tucker. You had the second you have any comment. Yes, sir I do. Um, so I have a couple questions as well One is mr. Templer Since mr. Jones knows what i'm going to say and ask I'll make sure that he's correct in his head in these contracts Do you have anyone or have you been able to hire staff Of that quality of expertise to help this county stay relevant and Within our compliances We we are we currently have an opening for the only uh gentleman that is provided to us via the safe build contract But no, we I think that position has been open for 11 months if not longer I have to look at my notes, but it's it's been quite some time.

» So And as we hired our certified building inspector um our official Which took raleigh's place We were able to reduce that That contract cost significantly. So we This is not a something we want to have long term This is certainly a stopgap The sooner we can get people in Obviously, it's going to reduce costs and allow us to have our our people on board. But uh, it's just a very tough position to hire for So you did the smartest thing to keep things moving in a professional and reasonable order And best for the citizens of kershaw county by filling the stopgap with contractors.

» Is that fair statement? Yes, we We have to with just the sheer volume of of permits that we saw more so in in 22 at kind of the peak Now we're coming out of That but there's still A lot of building going on a lot of those subdivisions we had talked in previous meetings are You know, they were approved then but some of them are just now being built out Some are just continuing with phases so Yeah, there's a lot of activity and we're just trying to be more responsive and joey and his staff have done an amazing job with trying to retool Planning and zoning and to be more responsive and To be more efficient and faster to get permits in and have them You know processed we have added people.

» We've added three people over the last two years And I you know, it's it's paid off Well, I want to say for service The ones that agree with me up here We thank you for that progress you you have made and what you're making and we know it's not an overnight wave the magic wand on trying to get your staff up the bar where you need it and ask that you continue to Use your discretion as we Figure out how to staff our Departments where they can service best for the citizens Now with that word I just used In your law enforcement career and and Your administrator career even when you was assist administrative was there anything written or? Stated on ordinance from us that says that you can't use Discretion discretion and that's the word I did use isn't it? Is there anything says that you can't us

» e discretion? No, um, you know and and it's You know There will be times we have to enforce the letter of the law And I thank you for that And and I You know, there's even in law enforcement. There's mandatory arrest cdv Mandatory arrest dui But having said that there's opportunities to And I i've done it i'll continue to do it I will if somebody's got a unique situation because not every house On every plot of land Or whatever is is going to be consistent and I think that's where discretion comes in and I think that is where we Have been turning a corner with planning and zoning Staff down there has done an amazing job with just Trying to work with people to find out how we get it done instead of how you're not going to get it done so Yeah, I you know There will be times I think when it co

» mes to Larger subdivisions based on my experience and some of the agony they have caused Um with with poor design and things and i'm not i'm not casting a broad net i'm just saying specific ones that has taught me to Let's scrutinize these things a little more hold feet to the fire enforce the laws that state has when it comes to stormwater and Do what we're supposed to do so that's Well, and we thank you for that. I've got one more thing Mr Chairman and i'm gonna let this go and we're gonna move on because I don't want to spend the night here Thank you. So the the the question was that how many question was asked how many retention bonds? Is it not a true statement mr.

» Templer that uh, these retention bonds have been brought up to the finance committee on several of our meetings discussing trying to find best practice moving forward and we've got things where we're moving in that direction with What 18 commercial ms-4s 19 And then 17 of our own and then four inside elgin that we do Stormwater four, so that's a total of 56. Mr Jones just for your math if you like to have it and they're increasing And we're not sitting on our hands staff is not the finance committee is not And trying to find a like I said best practice way of moving forward on these retention ponds Is that a fair statement? Mrs. Templer Yes Okay. Thank you.

» Mr chairman if I may Under robert's rules of order all other council members have the opportunity to speak before someone speaks twice So you will have your chance, but any other council members Speaking on this issue Did you know? No, I don't want to occur with councilman tugger Okay, we got a concurrence. Mr. Jones. Go ahead. You've got the floor. Well, let's tell you that was very nice What you just said so basically you're saying that we don't we won't be enforcing by the letter of the law You know, we we need to give some discretion to the county minister, which I don't I don't disagree with that I wanted to be able to use discretion.

» I'm just saying in a meeting that was said I think I was sitting poor taste and It could be selective individuals That's going to be that comments can be made too And I just didn't appreciate it But I didn't really disagree with the whole lot you said I disagree with most of it Anyway, thank you so much. Thank you. Mr. Chair. Thank you. Mr. Jones. I think these issues in the discussion Just speaking last year Are appropriate also for the zldr if there are items that we don't like in particular portions of the code That's why we're going through it right now. We can make revisions.

» There are some that I personally don't like where I haven't seen Applied or interpreted effectively or maybe they're just written really in a confusing way about the policy Maker so many years ago Some of these people are dead and gone But we're still trying to interpret what they what they've said And so I'm glad that we're going through the zldr process personally so that we can update and make sure Things are easy to interpret easy to apply And that's all I have to say any other comments at all. All right, we're going to move on to the next No vote required.

» We're going to move on to the next agenda item section 9a This is 2422 which we just had the public hearing on Second reading regarding amendment of the zldr section 3 3.26 regarding large-scale solar and requiring applicants to hold a community meeting with other related requirements As provided in the published agenda do I have a motion? I make a motion Is there a second second? Okay, it's up for discussion and what was your motion in particular? To pass on second reading pass on second reading. Okay. I'm sorry. That's all right. That's not still second Okay, and I just wanted to clarify we got a motion and a second Go ahead. Mr.

» Cato We had a lengthy discussion the last time on these Regulations, I think it's something that's Um Really needed with these these solar farm issues that we can get to the community Get information out to the community of the intentions of these companies allow our community to give us a response And to ask questions to this company about What their intentions are? And I think it also gives county council a little bit more Um insight as to how our county citizens feel about these solar panels and And what's taking place in their community? So I think this is uh, this is something that I brought forward Mr. Jones Was also involved in this And we've sent it over to planning and zoning they brought this recommendation back So I asked it it passed second reading. Thank you very much.

» The second was. Mr. Shoemake any comment? Yes Concur with mr. Cato another concurrence Any other comments by council members? Seeing no other comments or discussion We'll move it to a vote all those in favor. Raise your right hand Ms. Hanna it is unanimous for those who are present Next item gentleman is nine b This is case two four dash two four It's a rezoning request 10.43 approximately acre parcel identified by tms Located in cassette. Do I have a motion? I'll also make a motion. Um, we passed the second reading of this Disordinates, uh, thank you. Mr. Cato. Do we have a second second? Second by mr. Tucker Do you um want any summary from staff or do you want to go ahead and take the floor? I think we already had a brief summary in the first meeting.

» We also had the landowner speak Of his intentions with this this property and and I really think it's uh, it would be beneficial to the cassette area um, so i'm just going to leave it with that and ask for the support of My fellow colleagues. Thank you. Mr. Cato. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Tucker. You have the second. Uh, yes. Thank you Is there uh, mr. DeBose? Is there any changes from first reading? Because I was uh via phone the first reading. Okay. Thank you Thank you very much. Mr. Tucker. Anything else? That's it. Any other comments any other discussion gentlemen? All right. We'll move it to a vote all those in favor Raise your right hand I'm sorry. It's my left, but that's fine. I'm left handed. Anyway, just raise a hand miss hannah Uh, all those who are present are in approval.

» It passes second reading Now we're on to Nine b gentlemen second reading Excuse me next page nine c i'm trying to keep up with all my notes here Nine c second reading it is a Ordinance to convey one acre of land which we heard about earlier from to the community medical clinic It's approximately one acre and uh, do I have a motion? Yes, I move I was second. Okay. We got a motion by mr. Jones a second by mr. Shoemake It's up for discussion Before moving to discussion. I'd like to make an amendment if I could. Mr. Chairman.

» Okay What's the amendment? So my amendment has three parts The and I can i'll discuss kind of the rationale but let me just make the motion and see if I get a second Uh, the first is I would move to amend the ordinance itself um to specifically at the in paragraph two Uh, it says that the clinic agrees to maintain nonprofit medical clinic and if the property improvements are sold at some later date My first part of my motion three parts first part would be after that language at some later date comma The rest of that be removed and instead and in its place would be The would be the proceeds of the sale shall be restricted to the following purposes without the need to obtain council approval The purchase of a different facility for the purpose of operating a nonprofit medical clinic in cruci

» al county construction of a new nonprofit medical clinic in crucial county or donation of the funds to To an element mercenary or governmental entity to be used to provide health care services for the citizens of crucial county Any disbursement of funds not associated with these purposes shall be subject to approval by kershaw county council So that amendment would be the first part The second part would be in the accompanying deed I would move that we remove the language in the fourth paragraph of the description of the property That removes the restrictions on conveyance and that would be removed and the third piece is that we would then ask Mr.

» DeBose our county attorney to talk to mr Cox who's on the board of the medical clinic to discuss any appropriate language that may need to be in the deed if necessary And just so I understand on your motion to amend this was requested by the community medical clinic and their legal counsel It was it was requested by mr. Cox who is an attorney and on their board I've spoke this afternoon to judge cooper and also to mr. Galloway and miss rankin So, okay, let me just pause you right there. Let's get a second before we have any further Discussion all right. We got a second by mr. Jones on the amendment any further discussion. Mr Shumake.

» Yeah, just to sort of explain there's some concerns by mr Cox who in addition to being on the board is himself a real estate attorney and there was some concerns about Um the inability so basically the goal right is for this medical facility to grow If it grows it will need to sell its old building move into a bigger one And what we don't want to do is have the unintended consequence of delaying their ability to do that By placing so many restrictions They can't get a good buyer and so what this language does it still ensures that The clinic is used while being operated by the clinic the building rather is being used for charitable and free clinic purposes But should they grow the funds that they get from that will still be used for that purpose So what it does is allows them to grow if nec

» essary and doesn't encumber them As I mentioned this has been requested by every member of the board that i've spoken with mr. Cox Judge cooper Mr. Galloway and miss rankin and I think it makes sense and the third part of the motion specifically authorizes mr Debeau's to work with mr Cox just in the event that the county may be exposed by some of these additions. Mr Cox has been really easy to talk to so rather than play telephone game have our attorney speak directly with mr Cox to iron out any details we need to before third reading. Thank you very much. Mr. Jones. You have the second Uh, I think that's good stuff. Thank you. Mr. Shumake and Thank you for working with the medical clinic as well. They do such good stuff Mr. I think he's one of the best.

» Oh, I think that uh, Cox is one of the best real estate attorneys around He did my wife's will left me out of it I'm joking. Mr. Debeau's I want to clarify. Um, you vetted this and it's a situation that Helps them for their purposes but does not harm the county in any way legally or otherwise Correct. Um, I think provided that The funds are restricted to some public purpose Which I understand is the intent of cmc if they ever sell I don't see a problem Okay Any other discussion gentlemen? No, I will make sure that mr. Debeau's I have this exact language typed up But I typed it up earlier today get a chance to print it I will make sure that mr. Debeau's get this exact language and miss hannah gets it as well So that was going to be my request.

» Yeah, so that we don't have to restate that language But I have the exact language. I will send it to miss hannah and mr. Debeau's to make sure it's properly in the record Okay, thank you Seeing no further discussion unless there's more discussion after we vote on the amendment We'll have two votes in succession first on the amendment made by mr. Shoemate seconded by mr. Jones all in favor. Raise your hand Miss hannah all those present in favor None opposed and then we will vote unless there's further discussion gentlemen. We'll vote on it as amended No discussion. All right, let's vote all in favor. Raise your hand None opposed all in favor of miss hannah Thank you very much.

» It passes second reading All right, gentlemen, next item is number nine d first reading in title only is allowed by our rules This is under south carolina law allowing for the execution and delivery of a fee In lieu of taxes agreement normally known as the filo. It's being described as project new life seek a motion I'll make a motion to uh To have this first reading in title only Okay, second. We've got a motion and a second Not too much discussion generally on first reading you have anything mr Brazel No, I think it's good to see economic development moving forward and having a new project in kershaw county.

» I know that this will Potentially create jobs and opportunities for people here in our community So I look forward to seeing how this unfolds and i'm looking forward to having them expand in our community Thank you. Yes, sir more to follow. Mr. Tucker. I think you had the second there Yes, I just want to thank jeff burges and his staff And also the county staff mr. Templer and the rest of his crew for continuing to seek economic development opportunities here in this county because That is one of the cogs as in a wheel that keeps these things rolling. So Kudos to you guys Lock up some more we need them. Thank you. Mr. Tucker. I know. Mr. Burgess will be here But he's out of town on family vacation Any other discussions with council members? How many jobs? We don't know that yet.

» It's title only Well, the resolution will speak to it in just a moment, but we'll get those details to you just as soon as we can I already know I just wanted That's why I didn't ask Any other discussion? All right. Seeing none. Let's move to vote all those in favor. Raise your hand It's unanimous. Ms. Hannah Gentlemen that takes us to item number 10 resolutions. This is an inducement resolution providing for negotiations and the fee eluent tax agreement between Project new life and as you'll see from the published agenda it provides for 16 million dollars in investment And 32 jobs. Do I have a motion? Yeah, I so move make the motion to uh To adopt this resolution second. We've got a motion and second. Mr. Brazel. You've got the floor. Go ahead, please Again more the same.

» Um 32 jobs 16 million dollar investment um I can tell you a 16 million dollar investment. It's nothing to sneeze at. Uh, we we've Definitely see some of these large mega companies Such as bmw or volvo in charleston That really make a huge impact, but I think for a community like crush all county Anytime we see an investment like this we're certainly excited about it and we're glad for the The owner of the business and in the management and staff to be excited with us About bringing those jobs here and expanding here in crush all county Thank you. Mr. Brazel. Mr. Tucker. You have the second, uh ditto Appreciate it. Yes, sir. Thank you. Mr. Tucker um any other discussion Seeing no other discussion.

» I'll just comment generally that this is really exciting I mean this is big for us 16 million dollars in investment investment 32 jobs We've got a couple more readings and all details would be disclosed We like to maintain the the privacy of the companies to the extent possible as they expand and look at making moves in the market But it's really great for crush all county. These are stand-up folks and It's an expansion of a local company, which is just a blessing And with that, um, seeing no other discussion Let's move it to a vote gentlemen all in favor Raise your hand This hand it's unanimous for those who are present That takes us to item number 11a Airport roof bid paste placed on the agenda by the administrator. Do we have a motion? I'll make a motion to put it on the floor.

» You have a second second Mr. Templer Thank you. Mr. Chairman members of council. You have before you a bid through a cooperative purchasing agreement that is Allowed us to go out and secure a bid for hanger one and two a roof project this has been something we've been trying to do for years probably about the last five years is to Get some movement on on repairing our facility out there and these are the old world war two era hangers Got a little bit of roof issues. We've been battling for a while. So this this bid here will allow us to start Tackling some of those issues What you have here is staff recommends the award to johnson low construction for 339,380 dollars and 54 cents Thank you for that report. Mr. Templer any discussion council members Yes, uh, mr chairman if I may go ahead.

» Mr. Templer was this the only bid we received back on this? Yes, because and this is the cooperative bidding and this is if you remember This is how we did a fair amount of the work over at the jail And this this process has really streamlined these important, uh, especially a leaking roof It speeds the process up. It is allowed under south carolina coda laws And the state uses it as well. So it's a I just wanted to make that clear. Yes. Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you. Mr. Chairman Thank you. Mr. Tucker any other discussion gentlemen quickly. So you mr. Jones you recognize using that provision We wouldn't use that provision to deliberately not give bids.

» Oh, absolutely not absolutely not but he's he's wanting a particular job done quick and he uses this procedure through the state because evidently this company has done this type work before in the state and They can and it usually comes in lower as you can see what we had scheduled for bid And what it actually bid for is lower than what we had already set aside So a lot of good things come out of using this system I will I will vote for this tonight, but I really like it when we can and he you may not have been able to Get any more bids. I don't know But I mean when we can I just like to see two or three whatever That's that discretion Well, mr If I might you don't even know what you're talking about sammy. Are you done? Okay, mr Mr.

» Templer you gave me an expression of this joint process that I thought was useful Could you just go into a little bit more detail for the benefit of the council and public on? Why the state does it this way and how the funds are appropriated and the experience level of the particular contractors? Yep, so they're um, this is uh in Dorchester county is is the county that kind of anchored and competitively seek uh They're essentially doing our procurement for us and on they This company will meet with our staff our procurement officer, so we're still In compliance with everything we have to do as far as going out and being competitive with pricing and things of that nature they scope the work they come back and Gorgian will Speak with different vendors and so they essentially do the competitiv

» e bidding for us They come back we still check references. We still ever still do everything kershaw county still does everything that we need to do On our side that we would normally do under procurement so but it it does allow us to circumvent some of the Slower portions of the process because it's it's vetted it's recognized by the state and we are in partnership with dorchester county just I mean it's it's cheaper and quicker and and this is not something we do all the time if you remember there are With the jail roof and I think there was another jail project with jail plumbing So these are typically going to be very specific types of projects. So we wouldn't typically do this for Something else that we would normally build out like maybe say we're going to build a fire station.

» It's probably Unless we really looked into it and we found a lot of value in it We would still go with our traditional where's the state in relation to jails? or uh criminal housing facilities or airports does have particular interest in particular Network of individuals that they pre-approve. Yes. Okay. Thank you for that summary any other discussion gentlemen All righty. We've got a motion and a second. We've had discussion. Let's move it to a vote all in favor Raise your hand Seeing none opposed. It's unanimous miss hannah 11b has been moved to the end of executive session. So we move to item number 12 a Planning commission appointment. We got one vacancy District number four placed on the agenda by councilman jimmy jones. We have a motion Yes, I so move that we open this up I'm sorry.

» Say again, sir. I make a motion. We open this up to fill the one vacancy Okay, do you have a motion? Yes, I do point someone. Yeah, I do I bet y'all get a unanimous vote on this one You know I have a young general sitting out here I have much respect for him and his family his dad and jonathan proctor he has shown interest in it over the last few years and uh Thank you. Mr. Connell too for kind of bringing it to my attention I actually forgot when you have as much going on as I got going on I've got more going on than three of these groups together I'm just so glad that it was renewed in my mind where you're here tonight and uh, I'm going to make the motion that we appoint him to fill that vacancy. Thank you. Mr. Jones.

» We have a second Second Oh, we got multiple seconds fighting over seconds. Thank you. Mr. Brazel has a second on that one Thank you second. Thank you gentlemen. Any discussion. Mr. Jones He's a great man. Do you have anything you want to say to us? And remember I do not want to be cremated. Thank you Burning jonathan burning Thank you very much any further discussion gentlemen good good to have you here tonight. Yes Yeah, I would just like to say mr proctor welcome aboard.

» I think you know I've made no secret that I think our planning and zoning issues are the greatest issues facing our county And you're jumping in right as we're hopefully finishing the comprehensive plan soon and then moving to zldr And I think zl the zoning is one of the most important areas of our county right now And thus it's one of the most important commissions. So happy to have your board I think they're electing their new chairman in their next meeting coming up. I think next week So you joined at just the right time. So thank you And if I may mr chairman out we'll say thanks to you and and to your family, um, No, i'm all mom's my classmates.

» So We we go back like catalect seats You know, um, but you tell them all we said hello and just thank you We need young bright minds because me and this other fellow over here to my far left. We're on the way out. So Keep keep serving not me. Thank you. I'm gonna knock you out. We'll be here 100 more years How many more? 100 All right seeing no further discussion we'll move it to a vote gentlemen all in favor raise your hand Miss hannah, it's unanimous for those who are present You are appointed. Thank you, sir. Yes. Congratulations john. Congratulations.

» Yes, that moves us to item 12b a tech committee appointment There's one vacancy for filling an unfinished term or unexpired term district three Councilman, so I do not have a motion I would ask that we uh push this to two meetings I have a person that I had reached out to but Could not get a hold of them and I want to make sure that the right this is such a critical committee As you know, i've been up here mentioned many times that i'd like to see the west watery area in elgin I'll be a little more competitive for these atax funding which requires application So I really want to find someone for this committee In either my district or bluntly councilman jones district somebody in the west watery area Because that just that committee is so camped and heavy So if I could get one more month to

» find that person I would appreciate well said Oh, so you'd like to defer it for two meetings any motion required at all I think the motion has been stated deferred two meetings. Yeah. Okay. Do we have a second? Second. Yeah. All right. We got a second by mr Tucker all in favor of pushing this out to the first meeting in november raise your hand It's unanimous. Miss hannah for those who are present That takes us to Item c which doesn't require a vote It's just an acknowledgement that we have applications for pending future appointments miss hannah. You have those in the file, correct? They'll be they'll show up in the agenda as required Thank you very much. Miss hannah item 12 d santi lynch's cog appointment Do we have a motion on that one? Mr.

» Brazel? Yeah, i'd like to make a motion to appoint you To the santi lynch's cog chairman ben connell. Thank you. I think do we have a second? I'll second. All right. We got a second by mr. Cato. Mr. Brazel any discussion I think you do a fantastic job. You did a great job at the state house and I know you'll Meet lots of nice new friends on the cog and help kershaw county Find the funding that we need for for our roads and bridges and All these different sorts of necessary items that we have. Thank you I don't know what their wrestling skill level is on the cog, but i'll certainly increase it some Um, mr. Tucker, I think uh, no, mr. Cato you had the second No comments. Okay. Thank you Any other discussion? Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman. Go ahead. Mr. Tucker.

» I would like to thank you and welcome your board a great addition I feel Kershaw county is well representative on represented on this board And they show up and meet and they vote and they do their committee work. So I know we're getting another hard worker dedicated young man and we look forward to getting you into the grind of things and Because the cog does a lot of things across four counties And we're pretty stingy and greedy for kershaw. So we fight very hard. Thank you. Mr. Tucker not so young anymore Any further discussion gentlemen, I you know, I think to echo what councilman tucker said and what we were talking about earlier You know, particularly with west water re we're sort of new to the cog.

» That's obviously an area you represented amongst others I think that it's You know critical to get the infrastructure back here So and obviously to have the chairman of our council makes imminent sense, particularly with the chairman of the cog also on our council So I look forward to having you up there wrestling for money to repave at least according to district three folks We need to repave all of elgin. So you guys can get on that, please I heard that for six years, too. Thank you. Mr. Shoemake any further discussion gentlemen Seeing none. Let's move it to a vote all in favor It's unanimous miss hannah Thank you That moves us to item 12e appointment to the opioid coalition Do we have a motion? Mr.

» Tucker? Yes, sir Mr chair if I may I would like at this time to make a motion to appoint. Mr. Danny kato to the opioid coalition To serve and represent this body. Thank you. Do we have a second second? Second by mr. Shoemake. Mr. Tucker you had the first I know from danny's background in law enforcement And a lot of the things that he's seen over his career that this would be a shoe in fit in for him He's actually worked on the Investigation and he's done narcotics. He's done a little bit of everything I think you'll have some expertise to share with this committee And not only that bring back good information and take good recommendations So mr. Kato, i'm looking forward to you just jumping in with both feet and making it work in any way That we or I can support you. Just let us know.

» Mr. Chair. Excuse me. Mr. Chair. I have a question Uh, typically i'd get the let the second have a chance you will do I would yield you'll yield I just want clarification is what I wanted. Uh, mr. Shoemake from our attorney. Can I vote on this? Yeah, I don't know that the um Individual would necessarily cause you to have to recuse yourself. Um, I know you're sensitive to some of the funding issues I'm gonna recuse myself just On the record, I think discretion is the better part of valor. Yeah, exactly.

» Thank you that word again So I just want to say The only the only thing in my experience working with danny this last year the only thing danny isn't It does not do well is give anything less than 100 to anything he does I have no doubt If danny knew nothing about this, which he knows a great deal given his law enforcement background But I have no doubt that if danny knew nothing about this He'd still be an excellent choice because he doesn't do anything but give his absolute best So thank you for representing the county councilman cato as you do so well. Thank you I do want to say thank you danny For serving Do you want to say that? Thank you very much gentlemen. Um, I'll have a brief comment here. I think mr.

» Cato will represent this body very well It's a very important position There are hundreds of thousands of dollars that come to the county and this body votes on and allocates those funds And so there's no shortage of Need for this in the county and this is some supply that we'll get from the opioid settlement that will come for years And so we appreciate your willingness to serve on this Any other comments any other discussion seeing none? We'll move it to a vote all those in favor. Here's your hand You vote for yourself danny you can So we've got five in favor with one abstaining Mr.

» Jones abstaining, right? Thank you gentlemen That moves us to old business item number 13 We've got 13a boat ramp update placed on the agenda by vice chairman russell brasil Do you require a staff update first or would you like to make a motion? Um, well, I don't think we need a staff update as much as we need an update from alliance engineering Um, all right, let's make a motion then i'd like to make a motion to have a update on The bid process for the boat ramp that's being built at veterans park. Do you have a second? I'll second If you make Mr. Brazel Yes, thank you.

» Um We've been talking about this boat ramp for It feels like a couple of years now and finally it's coming to fruition um, i'd like to thank um administration and All the staff that's had a hand in this for for getting us to this point um like to invite Kyle from alliance engineering to come up and kind of tell us where we're at Um with the bid process, I know he's navigating, um many issues with Working with corps of engineers working with South carolina dhek. I know that they've changed names, but it's not a habit And other agencies as well as our own engineering staff to get this Project ready to to bid but give us the good news.

» Yes, sir Thank you councilman brazel, my name is kyle clampett with alliance consulting engineers We're pleased to be the engineer record for the watery river veterans park boat ramp Um, we're pleased to say that we are upon the bidding process. We have the plans completed We are nearly through the permitting process. We essentially have approval from kershaw county And just today we received approval from Des which is the new organization named dhek is what I like to call it because it confuses people if I say des They don't know what that is. Who is that? Sorry, I said who's that? That's right.

» Um, so Dhek is working well with us to allow a phased permitting process while we await the final lynch pin in the wetland permitting process from the army corps engineers Councilman brazel has been excellent support for us in that process to expedite I will commend both him and mr. Templer without their involvement I don't think we would be where we are today. I'm not gonna say we wouldn't think we would not be where we are today uh with the army corps process without their involvement, um, so Our plan is we'll have permit approval within the next couple of weeks from des and the county in hand ready to start Coinciding with that.

» We'll be going through the bidding process in the months of october and november We're still working with staff to determine when council meetings will fall in the months of november and december But we anticipate that that will go out for bid. Um, I believe the new dates were october 14th advertising And looks like we'll be opening in mid november right now. We're looking at november 14th to open If we have a second meeting in november, we could have that bid in front of everyone at that time For consideration and then uh to go into if not, we would go to that first meeting in december I would also like to mention on the bid process itself A question was asked of where this will be advertised.

» This will be on ski boat, which is south carolina business opportunities It's also on the county's website It will be on i-square-foot which is a plan room that contractors can sign up for and have subscriptions that gets out Construction connect is another format that we utilize to get the word out and then we use the old-fashioned telephone Making phone calls to contractors that are licensed to do this type of work We're excited for this project to go forward. It's creating 30 boat boat and trailer parking spaces 29 parking spaces themselves two ada locations creating a new dock new ramp and revamping of one of the existing ramps for the kayak launch So i'll pause there if there's anything else that we wanted to make sure and go over. We're happy to do that This evening.

» Yes, and I have hard copies of plans too. Could we could we have those? Yes, please. Thank you So I have full-size sets and site plans and we also have 11 by 17 A little harder to see the small print on those but you can at least get the gist of what's on the site plan itself We won't be able to wield the large ones. Please pass these. Yes, danny danny. Would you mind would you mind just handing those over? We'll check those out over so we can check them out Well, it's just been it's been everything's up to far now Just to clarify It should go to bid on october 14th, is that correct? Yes, sir. It'll go to bid as a single phase bid Is that is that the intent? Yes. It'll be the one contractor for all scope of the project.

» Thank you, sir And the dock that include the ramp that include the parking improvements all within one Okay. All right. Perfect. So so we We we got our square footage correct on the uh, the pier in the pier head. Is that right? We found new information even today. We're back to the 880 square feet that will not impact the lop process Permission. Oh wonderful. So yes, so great news that came today The letter of permission is the process is associated with the dock itself So we can now go back to our 880 square feet We're not limited to 600 any longer because of the lop process that the army corps is going through Okay, so there's no Big long wait period then associated with that There is not that's correct. Wonderful. That is good news All right.

» And so we we should have a bid By november the 14th and then the following meeting we'll vote on it. Is that right? So if I have one on the 26 with that don't believe there's going to be but if that's first meeting in december then we can be on that And we we may do a call meeting if um My colleagues are willing So we're open to whatever so we're going to list the bid that they are ready to have a notice to proceed november 25th That way the contractor has to be ready by that date So that way whatever you decide on the council meeting that contractor has already been informed that they were supposed to be ready by november 25th Okay Perfect. Thank you so much.

» Um, you've been a great help Extraordinary What we were able to do and hash this out and work together to to get us to this process I do thank you very much I appreciate you and your engineering firm and and all your staff at the engineering firm. Y'all done a great job for kershaw county um I think that's it. I think that sums up Everything that we've discussed and uh, anybody have any questions? Yeah, can I say something here? Hold on. I've got to defer to the second first and see if you yield Does that make yeah, I yield go ahead. Mr. Jones Again, I apologize. Oh, that's fine. I forgot I was the same. I just want to say something about his firm Go ahead. Mr. Jones. Yeah. Okay. Thank you You've been around for a long time.

» We've worked with you for many many years I can honestly say that I have thoroughly enjoyed it. I mean you guys do a great job and I appreciate that Thank you. I appreciate it very much We appreciate we do we go way back you do you and mr DePaul go way way back for sure. Um, and myself as well I've been with the firm 16 of our 20 years now and uh, we have always enjoyed serving Kershaw county It's a pleasure to work with all the staff that we can counter council. It's it's One of our favorite ones to work with and thank you for being here tonight and mr Breslin. Thank you too for giving us a clear decisive update. Yeah, absolutely. I'm excited about this and uh, I'm just thankful for the opportunity. Oh in construction duration. We put it 120 days as well Thank you. Yeah, great.

» So a little bit aggressive, um, but we we think we can push So we give them 180 they'll take 180 so we're going to go 120. Well, we'll be putting boats in by summer Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Tucker. You have any discussion? Yes I just want to say to uh kyle and staff I know during all this a lot of conversation was going back and forth, but I want to thank you and Your organization corporation as well Um for putting up with us, um, you know inquiring and trying to see where we're at and not quitting on us You're still bringing good news tonight on things that you've looked into and and made possible and that that means a lot because Sometimes when people get butt hurt they tend to not do their best work But we'll appreciate you.

» Yeah, you put your trust in us to do a good job And we expect that we we need to be available and ready for questions I mean This is uh taxpayer money being put to good use and our job and our duty is to serve well and to come Through for you no matter the obstacles that are in front of us, but we've enjoyed the process We always do with all the projects we do with the county You tell all those bidders you're going to send us out to to sharpen the pencil. Yes, sir We're starting to see i'm never going to say that the bids are going down, but we are seeing participation increase Yes with bids. Um, I don't think anyone's going to start charging less or anything But we are seeing escalations low Mr. Chair. Yeah, go ahead. Mr. Shumay. Um, I just want to say again Thank you guys.

» I look forward to to you guys doing this and also I know we'll be speaking probably I'm probably put on for the november agenda for our Casey west project which is near dear to my heart which I know you guys are working on I'd also like to take I think it's a really good opportunity to take a step back, you know, we see sometimes on social media and stuff about You know the pace at which the county operates and obviously we'd all love government to move really fast But sometimes that's not and since I came on this body Councilman brasil has been pushing for this boat ramp and it started when I when I first got here It was still a bit amorphous and just watching over the last 14 15 months councilman brasil And this body and this administration and alliance work on this ramp one It shows that

» sometimes fast and governmental terms might be 15 18 months But it also shows the power of commitment and I give my hats off to you councilman brasil because this is a perfect example of how We can come together as a body make real concrete things happen for our community that matter to the people there So congratulations, it's vice chair, sir Mr. Jones, go ahead a comment on something derrick said this she makes it um I don't I don't leave this out either. You know, I mean I had to Seek pleasure.

» I'd maybe it was a pleasure to work with this man in the middle Who's chair now for six years and he ran for the house won it and if i'm not mistaken You got us some money for this ramp, too Yes, the delegation worked very hard That's the first time I heard you Seriously, yeah, and that's much appreciated because we wouldn't be where we are now if we hadn't got that right that money so on that Mr. Chairman, I commend you on that. Thank you. It's any further discussion Seeing none. I'll conclude with this is a great example of Miracles happening somehow I went to the state house.

» We were able to acquire a bunch of funds somehow I'm back here again, and these gentlemen have a lot of additional funds to work on this type of project We've been talking about it for over two and a half years And it's resulting in what I think will be a wonderful project Very very important for our quality of life in kershaw county to have access to the watery river And this will only heighten and improve that and enhance one of the most dynamic Public parks that we have in the county.

» It's the most heavily utilized and I think this will only increase that you're going to see I just think you'll see a boom of increased use out there which i'm excited about and it's right in the heart of the county Okay with no further discussion let's move it to a vote all in favor raise your hand Miss hannah, you are we are unanimous for those who are present All right, gentlemen that takes us to item 13 b kershaw county code of ordinances municode update Placed on the agenda by the administrator. Do I have a motion? I would move that we open the kershaw county code of ordinance municode update for discussion And is this going to require any vote? Mr. Templer's just no, okay. No, sir. Just we have a second second We've got a second from mr. Tucker.

» Go ahead, please Thank you just kind of giving you an update and I think mr chairman based on our discussion there were some concern about the timeliness of of our ordinances being updated to our site and and the disparity between what we have staff has on paper Versus what we are displaying. So I just kind of wanted to talk about what we're supplement one, which is some updates for our Uh county codes where it lies in that process so Right now it's at the proofreader Probably Six or eight steps that goes through here to make sure of accuracy and and checks and double checks. So Supplement one looks to be about 60 or 70 percent through the process And these are the updates that we plan to get pushed out. So all in all there there is a a lag With what we approve versus what gets sent out.

» It's a large process looking At some of the communications we've had from municode that this will occur Annually in august and this will become more of a mechanical process for us as we update things In municode, so that kind of puts us on on notice to make sure that we are communicating with the most current Ordinances with with any of our consumers that would need that so it's it's a Little longer process and I thought it would have been you kind of imagine now in today's environment you'd be able to send something and have it uploaded but because it's it's law and They want accuracy there. There is quite a few steps to go through to ensure accuracy Okay, thank you for the update mr. Templin, mr shumake you have the motion Yeah, I have a question and then a comment.

» What's the so if we pass an ordinance What can what can we expect if we pass, you know our litter ordinance as an example? You know, we passed the other ones a couple months ago What's sort of the lead time between when we pass an ordinance to where it shows up on municode? Ballpark i'm not looking for precise. I'm just looking for a ballpark according to this I think 30 to 90 days Because I asked because I don't think like I as we look into this I'd like to look into making sure that that's happening because so by the way for those of you who don't know What municode is municode is how? We put our ordinances online So municode is a relatively new addition to our county.

» It was when the three of you were on council Mr chair and councilman tucker and councilman jones you guys actually authorized this Which is a great thing because before that authorization To find out what our ordinance has said you'd have to go to the come here to this building and look them up in a hard copy So this allows any citizen to go up and see what the law is And so I spent a lot of time on it just looking through stuff and it seems like the lag I just let's look into that if we can On that lag just to make sure that we're getting some of that stuff and it may be I just Just from what I look the other reason this is important is You know for law enforcement officials too and judges, I mean everybody it's an easy place to go To sort of settle any dispute about what the law is So I j

» ust I think it's really really important and I think it's one of those things that We don't think about something like this because we just sort of we know what we're doing up here but You know if you have an election and you know your body shifts out or the administrator shifts out the county attorney shifts out You can be left in a place where you know There's some uncertainty about what the law is in place and so having municode is Extremely helpful in most I think most counties mr.

» Boseman most counties are on it now, right? So you can find the ordinances for most counties on municode So I use it like when a constituent calls me and says hey, I have this issue Is this a violation municode is very good one quick shout out to also to our planning and zoning department because i've noticed You guys do a really good job of adjusting the zldr as we're doing these amendments I've noticed that you guys have done several reiterations of the zldr as posted online So in addition to municode we do have the zldr gets pretty regularly updated online as well So thank you short comment short. Go ahead. Mr. Jones. All right, mr chair I think I didn't yield to you. I didn't ask you to yield to me. I'm sorry. I thought you did Mr. Tucker, do you yield? Yes, sir. I do yield. Mr.

» Chair. He does yield. Go ahead. Mr. Jones Mr. God, I was just gonna say that uh Sure, I think you've been working on this for nine years. So maybe I get completed here pretty soon feels that way it's been it's been about nine because you brought this up and you've been fighting for it ever since and Congratulations for getting us where we're at right now Thank you. Mr. Jones any further discussion. Mr. Tucker. No, sir. Okay.

» Any other discussion gentlemen just for context for a public member to come in and Try to access what the actual laws were in the form of our code and ordinance used to require No pun intended in active congress miss mary would have to Heft a very large set of books sometimes to to an area where the public could view it And so I I fear that we worked the older mr DeBose into considering retirement by pushing on municode and making um modernizing kershaw county's access to laws Over a number of years, but we got it done and now we're trying to address the lag time as As has been indicated in a vote that occurs tonight third reading happens on something The law changes how quickly is that accessible to the public? There is some lag time, but we're trying to tighten that and reduce it as much

» as possible. So people have information at their fingertips on their phone or computer at home otherwise And certainly through council minutes That's the quickest way to get an indication of what the law is that that is in kershaw county But in municode itself, this is a good step for us. So thank you very much for the updates in the comments Any further discussion? All righty. We don't need to vote on that one This will take us to item number 14 council member briefings. I'll start to my left. Mr. Jones Do you have any report? You started me last time. I started with. Mr. Cato last time I just can see if you're awake. I am awake. Mr. Jones. Yes.

» Thank you so much Well, one thing I'd like to say is that having been here 18 years And I've served under a lot of chairmen's most I didn't like but i'll tell you something right now Steve kelly And you remember sammy. He always let me talk or let me finish He didn't agree with anything I did but he always let me finish I want to commend you tonight for running a good meeting You may not agree with some of my comments, but you allow me to finish You allow me to say what I feel like I need to say and I appreciate that sir You've been elected by the people just like me. Amen. Go ahead except for the chair I'm gonna wrestle you for that one I'm on video listen.

» I'm glad you said we had we had prior meetings where I made a motion to Include a wrestling mat right in this section right here and it would never fly I don't know why y'all wouldn't want to support it just to settle other issues But you look better in spandex than I do if y'all are inclined you can go ahead. Mr. Jones Yes, I still have the floor. Go ahead. Thank you But I think that that comment I just made is very important folks You know, we are he is right.

» We're elected by the people and we should have our right to speak whether you agree or disagree Now And I don't want any any any interruptions for sammy tuck it off when I say this our finance committee You do a great job guys you meet but you know what sometimes it's four Sometimes it's three of you But if there's three of you that's still a quorum for the finance committee I think the finance committee there should be minutes taken or they should at least be audio taken because guys I mean they're thinking what they're doing They're discussing They're they're making recommendations to county council on huge huge amount of money And uh, there's just no record of it whatsoever. That's just my personal opinion Think about it.

» I'm just asking you to think about that And you can thank me later for being so smart on this issue. Um also Mr. Tucker. Yes, sir No pun intended But I think it's a sad day, sir When a county councilman cannot ask the county administration questions without some one of his colleagues getting all antsy over there about to pee in the pants Okay, no comment We're all big guys we Nobody's been disrespectful here tonight. We just ask some very blunt straightforward questions so and you and And I thank y'all again for your cooperation No further report. Oh, wait a minute That's gonna be it. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Jones. Mr. Cato.

» Do you have any report? I do I have a few things First I want to thank my colleagues and I know Some was at work And things happen, but I want to thank the ones that wore paint tonight um, I um, I have a heart for this uh because uh, it's it's affected my family my sister um She had a battle with breast cancer and I seen what she went through and uh So it touches you so I really want people to really pay attention to this disease Especially women make sure you get your checks your mammograms and listen men too This can happen to men. Don't let anybody tell you it can it can happen to men and to all the cancer survivors I just had an aunt that went through stomach removal and to all the cancer survivors.

» This is for you This is for you And I commend you on your your fight um A few things I want to remind you of the mad festival starts october 9th so I Encourage you to look at the calendar and find an event and try and participate in some of the mad festival Also, there's a fall festival coming up october 27th north central high school. This is Was started by bethany westville baptist church, but a lot of the community churches and and different um organizations and And a lot of businesses take part in this the county takes part in it Um Huge turnout at the football field over at north central trunk of tree different Vendors, I mean, it's just a huge event.

» So um, please bring your kids out come out and enjoy a great night there November the 9th, I i've mentioned this and i'll mention it throughout november the night the mount pisgah resource center Will have its 100 year celebration and it's celebrating the life of the building up there It was it was established a hundred years ago and they're going to celebrate as they call it cheers to 100 So if you get a chance to do that I encourage you to go up there for that on november the 9th Lastly, I just want to thank my colleagues for the kind words. I don't deserve those words.

» I don't But I do appreciate them And I promise you i'll do my best Uh I've been on this council for close to close to two years now and i've enjoyed every minute of it Sometimes it's been very challenging But uh, I will always give it my best but you just about made me blush tonight So but I appreciate Appreciate what y'all do too You weren't looking at me at all when you said that Huh? Thank you. Mr. Cato I gotta learn to turn to my left. I'm used to looking to my right Thank you. Mr. Cato. Mr. Brazel any report Yeah, thank you chairman Jimmy welcome back today's your uh, your first meeting in person. We've missed you um You will write that down for me. You're doing Yeah, you write down You're doing very well post surgery and i'm glad glad of that And I am glad you're back.

» Um, you like to ask hard questions as do I at times? And i'll also want to commend you On your mannerisms tonight and the way you handled yourself very professional showed your leadership and I really respect that. Thank you. I want to say thank you for that um Councilman Cato, um, sorry. I wasn't able to find a cool pink shirt like councilman shoemake He's he found a nice pink shirt, but I did a billboard I did find a uh a ribbon to where my mother is a breast cancer survivor and um, my mother-in-law was currently fighting liver cancer, so We've been through uh and going through these situations and it affects all of us and all of our families and uh, everyone in the family, so I appreciate you pushing for for us to wear pink for breast cancer awareness for the month of october I'd like to

» command and thank Our administrator danny templar for Uh working with me and helping move forward with the boat ramp As you know, it's a project that's been dear dear to me in my heart and the people that I represent I like to Represent the sporting community of curse all county and uh, this is this is something that is going to be highly utilized and As chairman connell said it's going to just put more people in the park for different reasons as well. So it's It's going to be a really neat project looking forward to that i'm very excited about that Danny also congratulates you on uh being uh appointed to the opioid Opioid coalition.

» Um, I know you'll do a great job for curse all county there um a lot of a lot of families affected by By that disease as well Ben I look forward to you serving at santee lynch's cog. I know you You've probably felt like you've had idle times these days as only being a chairman of county council and out of the state house anymore every day so But one more thing on your plate. Thank you for for being willing to serve and take your time to do that as well And one last uh, congratulations to jonathan prodder. I agree with councilman shoemake that that is Uh our zoning ordinances and How curse all county is developed and how we grow over the next 10 to 15 years is going to greatly affect what this County looks like and how we live and enjoy our community So that concludes my comments.

» Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Brazel. Mr. Tucker any report. Uh, yes. Thank you. Uh, mr chair I'm gonna start off with a couple. Thank yous as well I want to say thanks to you chairman Um men connell and vice chairman russell brazel, uh for your um, what's wrong? You all right over there. Mr I'm just listening to you, sir. Okay. All right Um for your tenacity of um staying after the boat ramp and I want to thank danny and staff as well Um, it's how things get done You have to just stay up on it and and with it. So thanks again for the citizens Um, I want to say to mr. Jones as well.

» Welcome back It's good to have you sitting back over there tonight Honestly, i've missed sparring with you The time you were out And um, I see you back to your regular self That's a good sign because we all want you healthy Mr. Connell, this is my first meeting serving with you Uh since you've been newly elected and I thought that uh, you ran a fine meeting tonight and I look forward To the continuity and the consistency moving forward with that being said um Mr.

» Cato, um, you know, I would have pink on but um, I came straight from work And so for those reasons i'm going to request we wear pink again next meeting In two weeks and I will have me some paint on I will assure you And I almost went back there took miss lauren's coat because she was going to give it to me and put on and wear up here but um I just decided not to do that and mr. Jones I'm going to say to you from the finance committee. I've thought about it You asked me to think about it. We will continue to march smartly as we have With the finance committee and i'm happy to have you come take any notes Um record anything you want to record in the meeting but we're going to march smartly the way we've been doing business That concludes my report Thank you. Mr. Tucker. Mr Yes, thank you.

» Mr so You know just to piggyback on what councilman tucker said on minutes of finance. I respect the I respect the the opinion councilman jones. I think you know my position on that from my My perspective on the finance committee is Every finance after every finance committee meeting we do a report to the council And so to me that sort of serves the place of our minutes, but I respect your decision I'll certainly think about it Um, not certainly i'm gonna make a decision today and also want to welcome you back seriously. I'm very happy to have you back You look good. Seriously. I mean that thank you um Thank you for danny for putting the cancer Survivors in the pink on the uh are asking us to wear that Um, I got this shirt at walmart. I'm sure they started plenty more.

» It was only eight dollars I bought two of them offered sammy my double xl, but he refused to wear so um And uh, I also want to note by the way, uh that councilman kato's son just graduated the law enforcement academy So that's really really awesome That's really great so He's been talking about it for a long time. It was really cool to see the pictures of you Handing your son his paperwork and stuff. That's awesome.

» So congratulations um, I want to say thank you to Well, really our entire staff and administration but you know, um lauren Will jerryl danny on the extraordinary work they did with the weather that's come in We were fortunate in crishaw county not to be hit as hard as some of our neighboring counties But as one example that you guys may or may not know about certainly everyone knows that saluda lost some Firefighters and it was awful. But what you guys may not know is that our county stepped in to cover Their service calls during that tragedy while they dealt with that.

» I mean they weren't even to get to those Gentlemen's bodies initially There was a lot that happened that sort of happened behind the scenes and a lot that could have been a lot worse Had our staff and administration not stepped up in that storm and we got some weather coming in now Hopefully it stays away from us But I do want to thank you and I think you know We put an emergency management plan in place a few meetings back a couple months back And I think you see it working as mr Glover is now sort of chair of I forget the title forgive me But he's now taking a role that's sort of over all the sort of non-sheriff Issues first responder issues.

» So anyway, I just thought it was amazing and also to our law enforcement agencies that went out I just think our county really came alive and I very much appreciate everything that our staff and administration did in that In that weather event, but also has continued to do um, and lastly We got felgen home come well a lot of the schools are having homecoming coming up I think camden's is this weekend that we got felgen homecoming is on the 19th So just as you guys are traveling around and all those things just remember that we're gonna have a lot of young men and women on the road early drivers over these next couple of weekends as they Go to homecoming and go to their games.

» So please be safe and obviously for all those young people be particularly safe and I also am officially announcing my support of my son's girlfriend emma cotton for cam and homecoming queen I don't know if that's appropriate politically, but What the hell? That's all I have Neither one of those were purple, right? Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Schumacher Um I do have just a few comments to to close out We heard from the community medical clinic and some of their board members today October 17th, they have their medical clinic oysters and barbecue event at camden city arena that evening. It's a great event I encourage everybody to get out um, you got the Horse and hound polo match coming up.

» This is a post covid revival of the polo field and polo match It's been a great event The governor's come out and attended with us a few times a few times and we're an equine and agrarian society This is just a great thing for kershaw county and attracts people to the area What date is that? Um, that's uh, october 19th at 11 30 at the polo field in camden You got the camden camden community concert band on october 20th at 3 pm at historic camden The colonial cup is coming back for the first time this year post covid That was a big hit in reduction of meetings and events and that kind of thing, but it's coming back With some enthusiasm should be a great event It's a little bit more family friendly and they'll have some family friendly events there And i'll be out there and look forward to ce

» lebrating Just for council's Benefit and the public's benefit We've got two meetings scheduled coming up both of which are dangerously close to thanksgiving and christmas Both of which would likely get me in trouble with any planning that that my mother or wife or significant people in my life Would have and so we might discuss Suspending those meetings in the future.

» We'll talk about it in the next meeting and um to the extent we have anything pressing We might address it I would suggest the meeting before the thanksgiving week particularly regarding the boat ramp Which we talked about a little bit tonight and any others Council staff will update us on we'll make sure we get those things covered at the pressing But I know some of us already are going to be traveling during those weeks It might be out of town already and so we'll address that as it comes up Cancer is just vicious.

» It's taken both of my my spouse's parents and had other family members who Have succumbed to it others who have fought back and won and sometimes there's no rhyme or reason in every instance I just trust in god and his will and try to submit humility humility to uh to what? Folks are going through what I might have to go through in life And so we simply pray for those who are afflicted with cancer that they can fight back and overcome That uh that miracles or modern medicine sometimes which go hand in hand Can can take care of those issues? And we continue to pray for those who are impacted by the hurricanes from this community numerous Service missions have already gone out from local churches individuals who banded together Hey, i've got a big trailer in my backyard.

» You'll hear on facebook come loaded up if you want to i'm heading to western North carolina or to achan or to north augusta My church is going this weekend for example in a slew and wave of volunteer missions Bringing tools and our own gas and fuel and small tractors with grapples to try to help in any way that we can one of the toughest things about these traumatic and terrible events And I I fear that milton will make us witness and reflect on this again down in florida Is that it reveals some of the best things about the people You know and love and some of the best things about the people you never knew but you get to meet And so I encourage everyone who has an inclination or a little whispering Of feeling like they need to go and serve or donate or help people If it's a donation do you

» r research and find a very good charitable organization. There are scammers out there So you have to protect yourself And if you are inclined and able to go and serve and take off time for work or you have a free weekend Or a long weekend. I know that you'll bless lives as you go and try to lift these people out of despair and Abject poverty that's inflicted on them by a wave of water often that's taken everything that they have I had a brother who went last week with his local congregation and He described to me things that I can't imagine ever experiencing myself And and children literally being ripped out of their parents hands and arms as they try to clutch to them and in the throes of Strong water and just losing every memory that you have except for those in your head Just imagine it.

» It's a terrible thing. And so we pray for them And on a on a little bit lighter note I'm extremely grateful to be serving with this group of men up here I'm very grateful to be in kershaw county and serve here with people who are dedicated and I'm just thankful that i'm able to raise my family here. It's a wonderful space. It's a wonderful place And that's why we came back It took me about 14 years to to realize and learn that really after bouncing around to various parts of the country But um made my way back here and it was absolutely the right decision that concludes my remarks next item on the agenda gentlemen is Administrator's briefing. Mr. Templer you have anything for us? Yes, I do.

» I've got a Handful here, but I um, I think it needs to be said um I just want to commend Much kind of dovetail on what uh councilman shumate said about our response to this storm from our first responders um, I was extremely proud of just not what they reacted to but what they were proactively preparing for I think well before the storm had even Reached kershaw county.

» Will Glover had already discussed with Other staff about having a damage assessment team and how that would look so Just some stats for you of what we ended up dealing with um Up at the lake is was obviously the area of significant focus So before the arrival of storm personnel called individuals that had previously experienced flooding in our lake watery and watery river river area Personnel completed door knocks after the storm and checked on individuals as water continued to rise in our water basin During the event our county at one point was moved op con one full alert disaster emergency Situation is imminent or occurring with it with a limited emergency operations center activation those individuals were here till Before they went to that material condition They were here till midnight

» and then they they manned that eoc 24 hours, I think for a day or two total calls for service answered by public safety during the storm during the storm was over 350 public safety agencies that is qualified by kershaw county fire lugov fire camden fire kershaw county ems kershaw county sheriff camden pd and sedot Both fire service and ems staffed additional resources through the storm for the increased hazards Resources and responses were coordinated through our county public safety safety agencies to ensure all areas were covered for water rescue And that that was just again understanding that it wasn't just a lake issue that a lot of these tributaries And these creeks and things that you wouldn't associate with flooding was going to be a water hazard Kershaw county fire service staff to

» water rescue team following the storm for a total of 70 man hours This team spent 20 hours on the water doing welfare checks and assessing conditions on over 100 homes Central dispatch answered over 300 phone calls in a 12-hour time frame, which was double their normal call volume Keep in mind they're short in their In in dispatch they they so they had to call people in they had position and posture of manpower Or personnel rather To make this happen Damage assessment teams have conducted over 160 surveys in putting the data to the state for individual assistance What they found is one home was destroyed 19 with major damage 34 with minor damage and 92 were impacted While official numbers have not been uploaded yet.

» It appears that the river reached 38 feet which is the highest crest since the year of 1916 While official numbers have not been uploaded For our database on the lake it reached 105.97 Feet which ranks number three of all time The fire service sent resources to Saluda county on saturday and sunday to provide coverage due to the double line of duty death of the Firefighters they had a tree fall on a truck while it was responding and from what I understand that was a father and son in that truck Ems gathered supplies for victims in western, north carolina, and we'll take them this week Kershaw county is currently pending approval for fema with public assistance and individual assistance So those are two different categories public assistance is for public entities like kershaw county if we sp

» end fuel or Chainsaw time or just any kind of recovery there Individual individual assistance would be for homes that were impacted specifically We're still waiting on the threshold numbers for that we do encourage anyone that has any Damage that we may not have reached out to to take our survey that is on the red banner at the top of our website that Survey has been very active. It's yielded. I think the last time will and I talked maybe a little over 30 participants some of them were already taken care of but you know you never have enough information but That survey ends october 11th. So we want to get everybody that has damage To get included because that's going to help with our threshold numbers as it relates to that individual assistance.

» So Our guys and girls did a great job I was beyond proud of them. They they continue to watch these weather events They continue to monitor anything that pops up. So I I have full Faith in the men and women that that work out there Again, i'm just so amazed at how forward thinking they are They're not just thinking about you know, when the storm gets here or how much rain they're actually considering Clean up and staging and and things of that nature. So I just Wanted to highlight those efforts and just reassure the public I think we have some of the best public safety in kershaw county both sides of the river and Everywhere you go. So That is my report Thank you very much. Mr. Templer any questions about the ministry's report? Thank you, sir I have a comment. I think will glover head.

» I agree. He did a fantastic job Really did and thank you so much And to staff as well. Thank you. Mr. Jones. Thank you. Mr Administrator i'll just remark that the design phase on projects has become It's absolutely apparent to me now how important it is Whoever said you need to put another three or four feet on the top of the pylons on the existing floating dock That's at the uh, you know, whoever i don't know if it's alliance engineering or whoever said that in design Bless them who would have thought the water would ever get that out on the watery river I mean it's just the nature of it I guess but if you didn't have that additional three or four feet you would have been looking at a potential Bridge strike from a floating dock, you know, and so that design phase i'm very glad that we hav

» e engineers and others who are Involved and make sure that we account for all risks that additional three or four feet on the pilings You're looking up there. You think you'd never need it, but there it goes I think we're going to add two feet to the next time I'd agree to additional. Okay. Thank you very much for the briefing. Do we have any legal briefing? None outside of executive session. Okay. Next item gentleman is executive session and we do have 11b move to the end of that section Mr. Tucker. Do we have a motion? Yes, sir.

» I would like to make a motion at this time that we go into executive session um to have a discussion with uh item 17a attorney-client privileges briefing regarding ada compliance and contractual matters related to thereto And item 17b an attorney-client privilege briefing regarding airport related contracts and 17c which i'm adding that we Um at the executive session 17c for discussion of personnel matter pursuant to south kalaniko 30-4-70a1 Also, I would like to make sure the administrator and the Deputy administrator along with our attorney is present Okay, and then i'll clarify for the motion under that code You cited the first two items are subsection a2 in compliance with foya And the third item which was previously 11b is subsection a1 for four foya compliance purposes.

» Is that correct? That's correct. Do we have a second? We've got a second from mr. Shoemake All right, all in favor of entering executive session on these issues. Raise your hand We've got mr. Kato. Mr. Connell. Mr. Brazel Mr. Tucker. Mr. Shoemake in favor all opposed Mr. Jones opposed. We are entering executive session 1940 Mr. Chair, I'd like to come out executive session. I'd like the second that we got a second No discussion. We're out of executive session as we vote all in favor It's unanimous miss hanna. All those present are in favor. We're out of executive session Two items didn't require any vote. We still have item 11b Now 17c Regarding clerk duties that mr. Tucker had on the agenda. Mr. Tucker. Do you have a motion? Uh, yes, sir Okay Um, give me just a second All right.

» Uh, I like to this is my motion have it written up I'd like to make a motion that we clarify the duties and uh, super vision of the clerk to council so that the duties and supervisions are consistent with the established job Descriptions that was published on december the 6th 2022 Thus the clerk to council will drive Divide their time between Work for county administrator and work for the county council The county administrator will supervise the office of the clerk To county council for daily affairs with county council by majority vote Possessing ultimate authority for assignment related specialties to county council The clerk to council will be available to all council members But will report to the chairperson of kershaw county for any questions concerns or disputes That is my motion an

» d i'm happy to send you that too. Ms. Anna I'll make a second. Is there a second? All right, mr. Brazel. Mr. Tucker. You had the motion Yes, I just want to say thank you. Um, i'm not going to go into any more discussion unless you guys deem necessary Uh, thank you for um going over this with me and I just want to say what we're really doing here is ratifying What has already been put in place? so that um, miss hannah will um Have no mistake on what her duties and responsibilities are she's doing a fabulous job magnificent job But we just want clarity moving forward with this council Thank you. Mr. Tucker. Mr. Brazel. You have the second.

» Yeah, this um lengthy Discussion is nothing more than to solidify what already exists and um again december the 6th 2022 everything is stated in that notice of job vacancy and Has no reflection on job performance other than miss hannah does us a wonderful job here in kershaw county We're thankful to have her and we really appreciate what you do But um, if if you have any questions you can refer to this And as always you can speak to any of us. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Brazel any further discussion. Yes, i'm confused Go ahead. Mr.

» Jones What has been the problem? I think there was a a necessary clarification for The employee and administrators and I think that we've discussed that everything's clear and Okay, so it's basically we're solidifying this and moving forward the administration department and the clerk. That's where the the disconnection was I think it was a disconnection with all of us, sir. Not with me. It wasn't okay. Good then with the rest of us then I mean I'm not voting for any further comment Okay, you're done any further discussion gentlemen, if not, let's move it to a vote all in favor. Raise your hand And we've got mr. Shoemake tucker brazel connell and kato in favor all opposed Mr. Jones is opposed. It passes. Miss hannah. Thank you very much. That takes us to adjournment.

» I see most no adjourn. Mr Is there a second second? We got mr. Tucker. Mr. Brazel all in favor. Raise your hand You know kept me at too long Unanimous in favor miss hannah for the record. Thank you. We're adjourned. Thank you sam. You need to relax